Is this a viable solution to the Pac 12 dilemma?

We've heard all of the issues:

- The Pac 12 doesn't want anyone to have their own network
- The Pac 12 wants all of its athletic departments to share rev equally
- Texas can't keep LHN if it joins the Pac 12

And so on......

Abandoning the LHN after such a short stint, and after it looks so polished and has such a bright future, is a tough pill to swallow, especially with the $ being generated for the academic side of the university during tough times.

I there a way for this to be worked out so that it makes the Pac 12 and Texas happy? I think there is........

Everything in life is about $. Both sides will need to give a little. The deal should be this......Texas will be allowed to keep the LHN as is.......the $5 million/year promised to the academic side of the university will still be allocated BUT, the balance will be given to the Pac 12/16 to be divide equally. If this is about competitive balance and fairness in athletics, the University of Texas athletics department will make no more from the LHN than any other Pac 12/16 school's athletics department.

As for Tech, they get rolled into the OU/Okie State regional network which those 2 schools should love since it increases their exposure throughout the state of Texas.

Is $5 million a year going not to the University of Texas athletics department but to the academic side of the university worth it to the Pac 12/16 to bring in all of the eyeballs in Texas watching TV? I think it is.....

To recap:

- all Pac 12/16 athletic departments have equal shares of everything
- the financial commitments to the academic side of the University of Texas from the LHN are still honored
- Texas gets to keep the LHN for its 3rd tier football rights and non-football sports, functioning as a stand alone Pac 12/16 sub-network.

What am I missing?

Fuck you Baylor

Baylor is in full panic mode right now: http://www.baylor.edu/nation/index.php?id=84714

And while the Baptists beg for unity among the state universities and romanticize about football in the state of Texas, please don't forget how Baylor's coach went out of his way to fuck Texas during the 3-way Big 12 South tie of 2008. In the final BCS rankings, the Okies leapfrogged the Horns in no small measure to Briles not only voting OU #1 but also by voting Texas #5.

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all the articles about how the players had bought into the new philosophy, how much stronger they had gotten, how much better shape they were in and how they wanted to show they were winners. Sadly it was all spin. Sadly, after 60 years of following IU football (except for the 10 years of the 70's [the IU "glory days"] when I was too apathetic and bitter due to my Vietnam experience), from the time as a kid, reading my late Father's Varsity newsletter till now, it is always the same. 

I was lucky and got out just before I was eligible to go. You have summed up my feelings perfectly and we both probably won't ever see a winning season or Rose Bowl or BT championship in our life The defense is terrible. Wilson needs to address this big time for now and the future.

As for IU football, somehow over all these years, I manage to be optimistic at the beginning of each new season which is the direct opposite of my overall cynical attitude toward politics, government, Wall Street, and religion. Why I get so excited about IU football and why I even care anymore is beyond me, and I agree that the chances of seeing another Rose Bowl or BT championship in our lifetime is nil.

Why do a lot of MAC teams have decent defenses every year while ours continues to be awful? I'd put Navy or Air Force in the same boatwhere they have respectable defenses, make their tackles, etc. They are outtalented against the best teams but you can tell they are very well-coached and maximize their talent.

That being said, Ball state ran the same play (QB draw after not handing to the RB) and it looked like we had never seen that play, ever. They kept running it and kept running it because we showed no sign of stopping it. And on the biggest play of the game (3rd and 6? with like 4:00 min left) guess which play they run... and guess what happens. 

This team will hopefully improve from game to game, but with the schedule as it is, we're gonna have to ask recruits to take a huge leap of faith that it's worth coming here. And starting out 0-2 is going to be a bad hole to dig out of. Good luck to CKW and the staff, they've got a lot of work to do. 

IU is the better team on paper, make no mistake about that. Our recruiting is better than Ball State's and has been historically speaking.

The defensive scheme we saw last night will get us killed in the Big Ten. IU was giving up 4-5 yards per rush and many plays went for 7-8 yards per rush. This IS NOT because Ball State has more talent than IU. It's a toughness problem, scheme problem and of course we got outcoached by Pete Lembo. 

It's not that IU has "no talent", but rather that most of IU's players are of MAC quality. The recruiting, vis-a-vis every other Big Ten school, demonstrates that.

Looks like Wis. will beat us again by 70 plus points and so will some of the other BT schools. Doesn't look good for the Hoosiers this season.

I predicted we would beat Ball State 31-10. I was so confident that I actually toyed with the idea of finding a bookmaker and betting several hundred on IU. I regained my senses and kept my unblemished record of never betting on sporting events. 

Nutt isnt even an average SEC coach anymore. Time to hire a winner

Our O tackles got torched all night

Constant pressure and no push on run plays. Just because they didn't get sacks does not mean they did their jobs. I'll be so glad when we stop covering for their lard asses and they graduate I can't stand it.
Looks like another 4 or 5 win season again... if we are lucky.

Why are we in shock over this performance?

Happens every Goddamn game.

Typical...Pathetic...This is not a TEAM...Just a bunch of guys wearing the same uni's. Please spare me the "we are young and inexperienced" bulls**t. WELL COACHED teams will perform better than this even in rebuilding years.

Proud of the defensive effort today but the rest of it was a total clusterf**k. This ain't going to get it done.

We need to start with the AD. Boone has publicly amitted that he does not hold Nutt accountable for winning. He has no business being an AD at any school that wants to win.
They BOTH need to be shown the door NOW.

Coach Nutt and staff need asbestos drawers.

To lose a game, is one thing...To look (PATHETIC, COMICAL, RIDICULOUS) in doing so, is another. This is our M. O.

Don't forget we have a bunch of whiney spoiiled brat fans that want to tuck tail everytime there is any little bump in the road. Some of you folks just amaze the crap out of me.

If it doesn't get better, perhaps we should rethink our contract with him. But he looked panicked yesterday and tha is not a good thing.

My point is... We have no reason to be as cocky as we are. I love Ole Miss more than most alums I know. I keep up with all the sports, not just one. I care about this school. The sad reality is that we are a minnow in the SEC tank of big sharks. If Houston leaves, who takes his place?? Who is breaking their neck to get to Oxford?

I am not confident for the future of Ole Miss athletics across the board. I see the gap between the upper tier and lower tier widening. I think where we are now is the status quo and don't see that changing . I hope i am prives wrong but don't look for a BCS bowl or Final Four or College World Series any time soon.

I guess hope springs eternal.  But honestly we are no better off coaching wise than we were under Orgeron --  Good recruiiting but cannot beat ANYONE that matters.  
The playcalling tonight was beyond horrible.  And we cannot block, tackle, or catch the freaking ball.. 
 How on God's green earth do you let freaking unranked BYU (on our home field!  With a loud boisterous crowd!) come from 13-0 down in the 4th to win.  It is Orgeron all over again --  totally hapless.

We suck!
Need:
New AD
New head coach
22 SEC caliber players

At the game and said these words...MISERY IS ON THE WAY.

I could sense it in my bones. I could see it in our players' faces that they had given as much as they had to give. Then, in true Ole Miss fashion, we folded like the French. We will win 3 games at most and you can say "oh it's one game and we have 525,600 freshman on the team" but the reality is we are bad. We may not win a SEC game and we may not beat Fresno State out here. Fresno was beaten by Cal but Fresno looked better than we did.

Prepare yourself and drink often to ease your pain.

As long as we aren't scoring with are offense we will continue our losses.

This team may be as bad as last season. We cant move the ball...defense is lost and the play calling is HORRIBLE. Sorry, but I dont see Nutt getting us to a bowl this season and I am just ticked that we have ZERO improvement in what we had last season.

If we get to start every season 0-1 with L's at home...then we need to start thinking of making a change. I know its the first game, but tell me ONE positive thing you saw in todays game...not counting out awesome punter.

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is it time to give up on the season, yes its the first game. But using your foresight does anyone predict a productive season for this program. I say it will be another step in the wrong direction

Rick is not a good coach 

and should be fired if he doesn't win at least 7 games and win a bowl game.    Rick is a Bruin. Great. If his coaching ability matched his passion for UCLA, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  But it doesn't.  Let's keep in mind that there was NO support for Karl Dorrell. People questioned his coaching ability and lack of passion; he was on a short leash.   And, remember that Karl is also an alum.  But Karl has done an arguably better job than Rick is doing.  The facts speak for themselves

Maybe we should change our slogan to:  UCLA Football.  Winning optional. 

Rick is a bad head coach and I think he should be fired.  Just because he loves our school doesn't make it acceptable to produce mediocre results (at best).  Heck, love UCLA to death. Can I get a position on the football staff??  Rick is getting a VERY FAIR shot to win. And so far, he hasn't produced

UCLA hasn't had a lineman drafted since 1999... might explain all the QB injuries...
Another no-name running back had a career day running the ball yesterday... and he's on a passing team...

CRN is 15-23 into his fourth season.  That is unprecedented in UCLA football history.  Speaking of unprecedented, UCLA hasn't been to the Rose Bowl since the 1998/99 season.  That time span is unprecedented too.

While I don't think calling the coach names is proper, he talked a lot of bravado and made a big scene when he came on board (remember his interview during The Rose Bowl when sc was kicking the crap out of Illinois).  Are we any better on the field than we were 4 years ago?  It sure doesn't look like it.  What is his best finish in the conference?  If you're going to dish it, you have to take it.

We must get another coach unless CRN has a winning record AND beats suc.  It just can't be any other way.  And this time we need some one from outside Westwood.  KD and RN are great examples of why inbreeding doesn't work.

And that is why UCLA's athletics sucks.  Because fans have lost their taste for steak and think tofu is just as good.

It is time UCLA fans... 

for Neuheisel to go!! His numbers are not good and not much light at the end of the tunnel IMO. Is Chris Petersen a viable candidate or has he put Boise St. in a position to compete for the Natl Champ this year? Anyways, this site is a good resource to see who is out there and who is good or bad. 

I've had it. We're getting worked on national T.V. Minus two big plays on offense, we've done absolutely nothing. We still suck at clock management. We blitz successfully, then we stop and let the QB pick us apart. We look confused at times on defense. All this with an entire offseason to prepare for this. A team that has half the talent as us (relatively speaking), but that is out disciplining us and out scheming us only means one thing. We're consistently getting outcoached and have been for quite some time. 

BOISE STATE!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS!!!

I say we finish this season fire all the coaches, bring in a fresh new mind like a Petersen. Have a rebuilding year next year and back to the top in 2013

I agree...we deserve better. I won't be watching anymore games as long as CMR and CMB are associtated with this team. This whole system must be changed in order to restore confidence in our players.

I'm trying to think of a stronger word, because embarrassing doesn't seem to cover it.  We've gotten used to getting embarrassed by Alabama, Florida, etc.  This is worse than embarrassing.

And if we're firing the coaches (which should have happened after last season) then why wait until the end of the season? One of the reasons Florida turned things around so quickly after Zook is that they didn't wait.  They fired Zook mid-season, identified who they wanted as a new coach, and then went and got him--along with 2 national championships.  Nothing good comes from waiting once you know the band-aid has to come off.

Why wait?  Fire the whole staff tomorrow.

it is time for a new coach. We are getting destroyed.

What I dont get it is, how did everyone not see this coming? After last year nothing coaching wise changed so you knew nothing was going to happen.

let me be honest with you from someone that's on the outside and looking in. I didn't understand the high expectations coming into this season after the 10-6 Liberty Bowl debacle against Central Florida and on top of that, losing one of the best wide receivers to ever come out of UGA.

The thing about this game that hurts me the most is how Boise St. beat us on the line of scrimmage on BOTH sides of the ball. 

I can't even tell you how I feel. I was willing to give Richt one last chance, but now, the guy could win out and I would still want his @$$ out of Athens.

It's time for a change folks, because Richt is simply past his prime.

I wouldn't worry too much, it's only 9 months to the next pre-season.  You know, our favorite season.

I guess the handwriting is on the wall now. Even our most positive fans are seeing the real story. 

This game was ridiculouse at best. I'm with Salty on this one. I invest way too much time, energy, and money in this team for our coaches to continually lay goose egg after goose egg. I wanted CMR gone years ago, but decided to stay the course and root the man on. Bobo on the other hand has been our #1 issue for years. The guy is clueless and has learned diddly squat in the off season.

Fire them all, let Gramtham take the reigns and bring in who he wants. This team and staff is a joke.

why does Georgia continue to trot out this same staff of schmucks?  The play calling last night was anemic, pathetic, and predictable.  We had one drive in the 3rd that looked really good with forward passes and when we crossed the 40, we killed the plan.

Last night was like watching your best friend get hooked on drugs.
He sobers up and acts like the old friend you used to have.  It is just like old times again.   Only to watch him go off on another binge and disappear for a while.
You love him to death but you are helpless and can only sit there and watch him self destruct.

***I'm too embarrassed for Auburn to post a meltdown***

I put this loss on BK. The team was unprepared ( as usual for our Iirsh)

The team wasn't unprepared. It had a ridiculously bad day. You can expect a little bit of that on the first day, but sometimes complete meltdowns happen winning just isn't meant to be.

How do you start Dayne Crist? It's obvious he hasn't improved. He can't see the field because he really doesn't understand the game.

ND is a bunch of pussies. all the hype is hysterical now..

*uck, Kirk Herbstreit, is right we'll be an 8 &4 team this year !

I'm fn slammed right now, and ND completely blows donkey balls. 

Yea I was pretty fricken frustrated the entire game, and pissed for an hour after, but wow did I get over that pretty quickly. Pretty sad that I have become pretty much numb to ND football disappointing every year. I am really glad I didn't completely buy into the hype this year.

Kelley fin sucks. What a crock of sht. This team couldn't beat me or my friends in touch football. Kelley should be arrested for fraud.

he's over-rated thats a fact.. these kids were not ready to play. Weis part 2???

This loss is clearly all Brian Kelly's fault! Quick! Someone see if Ty Willingham is available to be the head coach! I also hear Florida's offensive coordinator is a guru with offenses.....hes a cant miss guy. Maybe Bob Davie can coach the defense. I found our solution! Bring back all the coaches from the past, like a sadistic Christmas Carol of sorts. The coaches of Notre Dame's past.

I know that we have lost a lot of games over the years that we could have or should have won. But when can you remember so many repeated mistakes, seemingly overcoming them, then making more?

Such a bad reflection on ND. This guy looks as though he is going to strangle someone at any moment. I never have seen such a display.

I wonder what recruits think when they see Kelly balling out his players. I would think twice about playing for a guy who is going to humiliate me on national TV.

I'm serious, you have a four week QB battle that lasted 30 minutes, punt returner that can't catch, punter that couldn't kick a can down the road. The best kicker in football can't make one field goal. This team was unprepared, I question the placement of players and that's the staff.

The other teams always come into ND stadium hungrier and more focused than ND.....until this changes we'll keep giving the big underdog (UConn and USF weren't even Div IAA until the late 90's) their chance to embarass ND and all their haters.

Why is it a big deal to beat us? We have like a 56% winning percentage in something like the last 12 years or so I read.

This team panics when facing a challenge because they aren't used to winning. 

I am done banging my head against the wall until the current Srs have graduated.

TCU & Baylor's super bionic ultra sexplosion ends in a Frog loss

This is the worst defense I have seen in probably 10 years... I can't believe we are this awful at covering receivers. There is no pressure hardly at all on the QB. 

Sure never thought I'd see GP laughing and smiling on the sideline trailing 27-23 midway through the 2nd qtr

We are awful, plain and simple

I haven't seen this many broken arm tackles in a game since we played Colorado State.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH US?!?! 

We cannot tackle 

i will develop an ulcer if all season is like this 

I'm not sure we can point to any one person for this debacle though. The whole team has stunk it up all night. 

Where is our pass rush?Griffin looks like he could order pizza back in the pocket.

TCU to the Big Least... immediate suckage begins

Congrats to BU but TCU was a no show on the D and on the FG kicking.

That is what you get with the BCS, you lose one game like this and your season is over. 

Vegas Bowl. I'd settle for it now.

No one played like a champ in this game.

This one is really hard to take. Figured we weren't going to be good, but Good Lord! They have NO secondary! We have a good receiver corps. Could have scored 100 on them. 

 I still feel like I'm going to throw up.

The D has no where to go but up. Awful just plain hard to watch ugly game. 

 We got beat by fkn Baykor. We suck so much. Pachall is the only player that cared 

The only reason we came back is because Baylor started playing not to lose. When we finally took the lead they went back to playing to win and marched right down the field for the winning FG.

I am extremely dissapointed we lost to Baylor of all schools,as I have a lot of Baylor people I will now have to eat crow from

As of right now, the offense is pathetic, defense is soft, and kicking game is garbage. Show some pride, our level of intensity is embarrassing.

At least we get to go home. They're stuck in Waco. 

if I ever meet you, I hope you've made your peace with God.

its just a game, have a drink tough guy! 

Hallelujah

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Baylor vs TCU - a little something to get ya ready

Football is back! Message board reactions to the Thursday night games.

Worst qb play in 30 years

Horrible.

This really is as bad as I have ever seen. There is no defense of Newton after tonight.

He looks completely lost! Deer in headlights. Playing like a 3rd string High School kid. Going to be one of the longest seasons in years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get used to him because Joker is as stubborn as Brooks and will die on the sword rather than cut his losses and go with Smith or Bookie.

it was
tureeeeble

Whats even scarier is that apparently - hes the best option UK has at that position.

Struggling to see how it is that ANY sec coach could stick with Newton when ANY other option is available.

the disgust on this board is totally justified

This should no be tolerated. It must stop. UK fans don't deserve this crap

On both sides it looked like a High School game!

I wonder how good UK could recruit Ohio with Tressel as head coach?

Phillip Fulmer is tan, rested, and ready. He'll be good for 7-8 wins a season at Kentucky. That just wasn't good enough at Tennessee.

This is a multiple choice question with only one correct answer and it's Mike Leach

I'll go one further and say our DLine was not as dominate in this game as it should have been...I agree with you in that our lines being outplayed by a Sun Belt conference team is a huge red flag!!! The most disturbing aspect of the game indeed!

Man, I dont even know where to begin. I guess the coaching staff. So much for all the depth and improvement in recruiting the last few years. We simply dont have much talent. Thats on the staff.

Our offense is horrible and we have to play in the SEC. The o-line couldn't open up holes against Western. They couldn't pass block. 

Like the doctor told my mother on the day I was born "It's going to get UGLY!!!"

I hate being a negative nellie, but you have to speak the truth. There are plenty of good college coaches out there. It's time to pay someone to elevate this program. We have the conference affiliation, stadium and practice facilities to compete. The fans should demand better.

I'm sick and tired of UK being so inept on the field.

"this program needs an enema."
That might just be the line of the night. Now if we could just get Jack Nicholson to say it.

The thing that shocked me was the sheer lack of talent that appeared to be on the field (except for 2 or 3 guys on defense). The Cats just don't pass the eye test, as far as SEC caliber athletes.

I would rather the Coach show some intensity and give feedback depending on what is going on in the game. It looks like Joker manages and lets his assistants do the work.

I'm not so sure...finally Cat fans and card fans agree on something....we both sucked it up. That chit we saw last night was aweful, wish it had not been televised. Though a real football fan would not have watched very long.

The UL-UK game may be one of the ugliest games of the year in college football.

Look, I have never played football and I have nothing personally against guys like Roark and La'Rod (who both could be great receivers)...but I can't help wonder just what goes on during all those workouts and pass catching sessions. These guys seem to completely lack the ability to fight for the ball and haul them in against even the slightest amount of pressure. 

Unfortunately The Pundits Have It Right We are worse than last year.This is the worst football team I have ever seen.

That was the worst football I have ever seen. We suck beyond belief. 

It went over the total. That's all that matters to me.

645 yards, 9 yards per play....

Some people tried to warn you...most didn't want to hear.

I knew we wouldn't be able to play man up against them because we are lacking physically. What I saw was a bunch of dorks jerking around on the field getting motion penalties and letting receivers get behind them in bad coverage.

We suck. End of debate.

It's not being outmanned it's the mental mistakes that get me. Not lining up correctly ON THE FIRST TWO PLAYS! DBs TURN AROUND!!! Stuff like that!

If we had just been manhandled that would be fine. Poor execution and constant penalties in the first half is another story. My son's pee wee team is better at lining up without doing it in an illegal formation or jumping.

Someone else said this earlier, "it looks like we practiced an illegal formation all pre-season".
I think this is closer to the truth than people want to believe.

Remain calm. All is well. All is well! We're going to the Big XII, remember?

Yep, the refs made us look bad and jesus made us fumble. I got it now.

While I was there last night, I don't blame anyone for not going to Tiger football games right now. We are embarrassingly bad, not competitive, not entertaining, not fundamentally sound. 

You almost have to be a masochist to enjoy going to the games now.

This team sucks - again. 

Enough said.

Yep and so does our entire sports program. Wait tell you see how sad our basketball team will be again.
God this coaching staff sucks so much

that has to be quite possible the biggest choke I've ever seen

The coaches are who choked. DISGRACEFUL COACHING JOB.

Makes that decision to forgo buying season tickets seem prudent.

How many times over the years have I seen Wake just stop playing and hand it to the other team - well t+1 now

What sport is left to pull for...

Definitely glad I didn't buy into the PSL hype after the 2006 season. Saved me a ton of cash.

Everyone on here is like all the students I witnessed tonight!   Parents are  paying for them to go to WFU!!  As they were spending parents dollars for draft beers, they ask what the score was, who was the starting QB!!??  Then, after we lose a heartbreaker they all have the answers to football and FIRE THE COACHING STAFF!! 

Grobe's "nice guy" mentality cost us again- let's step on the other team's neck and run up the damn score when given the opportunity!   Just pathetic not to try to score at the end of the half and end of regulation.  NICE GUYS FINISH LAST MR. GROBE!

When the sideline loses its nerve I have a very difficult time getting excited about the good play or sideline calls in other parts of the game.  You can never lose your nerve in this game and the sideline did when Price went down.   If you lose your nerve in reaction to the QB going down you send the biggest message to your team and this coach just doesn't believe that.  He is too worried about all the things that can go wrong that he misses all the things that can go right.  You cannot tell me the team collapsed on their own.  They didn't collapse in a vacuum.  The "wilting," as Dan Collins referred to it, started on the sidelines.

FACT of Life in College Football:  Grobe has one or two more games with this team and if he doesn't make it happen they'll all be chasing butterflies on the gridiron, and I may not like it but that is what happens these days

Fire this coaching staff. 

They are losers.

NO BALLS , NO EXCITMENT, NO EXCUSE

yea this playing to maybe be close to maybe win is getting real old.....

That really hurt me down to my Deacon Core........  wow just wow !!!!!!!

I don't know about firing, but it is obvious that the coaching staff doesn't have the same ability that led Wake to a championship in 2006. Seems like a steady decline.

No balls!  I am starting to believe they need to go.  If they had run the GD ball more at the beginning of the 2nd quarter, this game would be over.  Damn - this was a stupid loss.  Oh, btw Bunting sucks.  F UNC.

Complete CHOKE job on the Defense and coaches. Stick the punter under the field and roll over him with a tank.

Love the co-defensive coordinator scam. Great work guys!

This one hurts! The crappy kicking game frustrates me more than anything. A close second is that I can't understand how our coaches think our punter is capable of doing the job. Also, who evaluates and picks the qb depth chart? Do we really think we can win punting like that? Did we just hope that our backup qb would never have to play? Luckily, i've seen this rodeo before so it doesn't hurt quite like it used to.

Duped again for the 100th time. Had some reserved hopes for this season but needed a win tonight. Welcome to another year of under 500 Wake football. I am sure hoops will be much netter...Not!

It's the same stuff year after year. Not being aggressive in the red zone, not trying to score at the end of halves, playing (hoping) that the other team will make a mistake rather than trying to win the game. It's the definition of insanity.

It was worth watching to the end, unlike most games last year.

They look scared out of their mind....except for the one dancing. 

Still would like to see our guys looking over their playbooks and scouting reports. Like Derek Thompson said, "We weren't prepared enough for this game"

If any of us are really shocked about our performance thus far, it's out of looking through rose colored lenses. As enthusiastic as we are, we have to understand the reality that we're dealing with a group of kids that have no confidence once things start to go south.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you need to raise your expectations. No excuses. 

This is FIU, not Alabama. There is no reason why we shouldn't have at least as good of a team as last year, and we shouldn't have to expect a huge step back.

Honestly, take the first quarter out of the situation, the team was barely able to warm up because of the storms having to send them back to the locker rooms.

After respectable performances against Clemson, K-State, and Troy last year I guess I expected us not to get worse. 

Get real people. No matter the circumstances we should never be down to a SBC team 28-0 after one quarter.

Dude, we gave been getting trucked by SBC schools for 6 straight years--looks like a 7th is well on it's way.

So how long are we going to be allowed to blame Dodge?

It's really too bad for Dunbar. I bet he would have liked to have some blocking. I only remember one play where he actualy had a hole to run through! O-line looks terrible! 

Some of ya'll have this whole season figured out, and all we've seen is one game. I'm impressed. 

olen surprised me by missing both fgs...he only missed 2 all of last year

You don't beat a bully by begging him not to hit you, you beat a bully by punching him in the mouth. We didn't throw an offensive punch the whole first half. 

I was hoping for a win, but not expecting it. I wasn't expecting the loss to be this staggering, though.

So if we finish #120 we get the top overall pick for next year's recruits right? 

on the brightside, Nova won the fan battle...

Temple brought their standard 15,000 fans.
Nova brought 18,000 fans.
Just like last year.

It's ashame that 'nova will be back to playing in front of their grandmoms and aunts for the rest of the season.

At least no shutout

VU starters scored on the TU backups but they definitely deserved one.

If nothing else, this butt-kicking should firm up the Administration's commitment to make the upgrade happen. No excuses for losing this way to Temple, but it's time to stop playing games against FBS teams with one arm tied behind our back.

critical breakdowns on too many plays resulted in A ROUT.

have the leaders emerged on this team and who are they?

about as bad as it can get.
ouch

VU Coaching staff has made a huge mistake skipping over very talented upperclassman who worked hard and waited their "turn" and have helped program win a National Title. Instead, skipped over them and played 9-10 True Freshman and have decided to play High School players in our opener against very experienced Temple team. Makes one wonder if they have written off upper classman and willing to sacrifice a season or two to give experience to players obviously not physically ready.

Looks like a disappointing season is head of us.

My Point; Anytime coaches make a decision to start or play so many 18 year old freshman at this level makes one wonder what are they thinking? Tonight's game proved that some of these athletes are not yet ready and perhaps could of taken a redshirt to develop in size and maturity.

I hope that the lesson learned from tonight is that every player has a shot at becoming the next starter cause not too many positions are solid.

This is all on the shoulders of the o

I hate to say it, but we seemed very much intimidated. The guys seem to have relaxed a bit.

Our speed would really improve with a haircut or two. I cannot even read the numbers. Swimmers shave their bodies to improve their speed, don't they?

lookin tired. They have played really well, especially on D, tonight. All heart for our guys. I am proud.

I sure wish I hadn't been so sure of a win. No, that's not right. There are no moral victories. 

If the vertical passing game isn't working then this kind of offense just doesn't work against a BCS defense.

21-9 given the way we played is a great score. It could/should have been a lot worse.

we should have play uk, they are horrible. this could be joker's last year.

Our Special Teams absolutely killed us with the fake punt, dropped punt, missed extra point, no return yards worth mentioning, and L'ville beginning near mid field on every kick off.