Aggies threaten to run away, again, because their feelings are hurt, again.

Last summer's conference realignment sexplosion, which resulted in a 12 team Big 10, a ten team Big 12 and a new network for Texas, has left the Aggies simmering in jealousy. Did the Aggies know about the upcoming Longhorn Network when they decided to stay in the revamped Big 12? Of course. Is anyone surprised that they are still outraged and blaming the University of Texas for their own decision to stay put? Of course not. 

In 2 days, a Texas A&M Board of Regents meeting has a listed item of discussion entitled "Big 12 Conference" and the Houston Chronicle reports that this will be a bitch session about the Longhorn Network. This has sparked yet another frenzy of  "Texas A&M to the SEC" chatter and the expected message board meltdowns this generated are entertaining to say the least. Facts be damned, let's look at the reactions of the fanbases.....

I am thinking the odds are about 85% we start SEC play by 2013? What ya all think? Kyle gets a major renovation and we are off and fightin' in true Aggie style. The BOR seems ready to act with conviction soon. Can't wait much longer for our destiny in the SEC to begin. Should be fanatastic!

If the rumor was true that a donor was offering 9 figure donation contingent on our going to the SEC, I might actually think our chances of going there are pretty good.

The official odds are 99% by august 1, 2011. After that, they fall to 5%

The next BCS cycle starts in 2014 and with it likely a new round of re-negotiated TV deals. Sometime between next week's SEC meetings and season's end Slive will announce SEC is "considering" expansion. A&M and the SEC will announce the news after the championship game effective 2014.

Why do we need to announce this summer? I hear July 1st is the date the SEC would likely use as the cutoff to start for the next year. So we are likelt to late to start in 2012 but have through next June for 2013. I would be giddy if we did announce this summer for a 2013 start just to have a little more prep time, but why would the odds go down that much after this August? I would hope the BOR could just make it official but to me they are just as likely to wait til next spring.

it's really 200 million. Dont sell the rumor short

The BOR should vote for the SEC when it is least convenient for the State Legislature to race back to Austin for a special hearing.

Make no mistake about it the donor wants to go to the SEC! The donation is being made contingent upon Aggie brass making the SEC happen!
That has been stated by donor and BL can confirm this

I cannot tell if our brass is being willfully ignorant, naive, or just plain stupid if they are worried about the dirt of the SEC when the 800lb gorilla of the conference has a multi-billion dollar media empire protecting its interests now.

Eventually EsipN will become the defacto B12 channel except it will be run specifically for tu.

Every school in the b12 and state of Texas not named tu is going to be permanently marginalized by the lhn and EsipN's attempts to ensure the success of its $300 million dollar investment.

What the Longhorns are doing is an udder embarrassment to us!!

No one is saying that we would instantly win the SEC. I think we may even have a rough first year or two in football. But, we will gain a huge recruiting advantage if we are the only SEC team in Texas.

The people on this board that think we will not win in the SEC are just ignorant to the facts. Not only will we win but thrive in time!

Based partially on Luicci's article and just what is clearly the best choice for A&M. I think we will do well in the SEC. If LSU or Auburn or (pick your 2 teams) go on sanctions that will allow us an easier introduction. I think we would be in the mix for the SEC West title fairly quickly and could even win one with a fortunate bounce or two within our first 3-4 years. We will enter right around the level of Tenessee or Arkansas or Georgia and ahead of programs like the Mississippi teams, Vanderbilt and Kentucky. We bring certain recruiting advantages that will end up shortening the gap between us and the elite SEC teams. After a decade of play we will be an elite SEC program and will likely stay that way.

Not a chance in the world that ou and tu will retain their games with A&M (unless tu goes indy and ou goes to the SEC). They already have beefed up their non-conference schedules and scheduling A&M would not be high on either's agenda. OU has a relationship/rivalry with Nebraska that is as strong as their relationship with the sips. A thousand times greater than their rivalry with A&M.

tu will always play us. That game is worth too much $$ to not play. As for OU if they don't come along, who cares? They are not a long standing rival with us they way they are with tu.

Hopefully the BOR comes through in the clutch

Just do it BOR.

Perhaps the LHN will offer coverage of this BOR meeting to soothe any hard feelings? ESPN can do some flashy backstory pieces on those BOR members that have yet to make up their mind on SECession?

Maybe the carrot for us to stay with this suck of a conference was that the other schools would let us have the law school we have wanted since the late 90s.

Didn't A&M try to make South Texas College of Law its law school a while back? Hell, it might as well be. Place is packed with Aggies. I wish we had a law school.

are the SEC schools going to somehow meet to discuss even wanting aggy around? or is this one more aggy "we hate the Texas Longhorn Network" meeting that goes nowhere?

Same shit different day, no one wants them

God.....I hope they go and just end this.

They mention contract negotiations regarding the big 12, so this translates to contract negotiations with the SEC?

Interesting that a law school is on the table... iirc they tried to buy South Texas in Houston a few years ago, and it got blocked from somewhere

They think they'd be giving us the finger by leaving. I'll help them fucking pack. They're Texas Tech with a God complex and matching haircuts. Go, with our blessing, be the SEC's doormat. 

Would anyone really miss seeing aggy on the schedule? I mean, it's a fun rivalry but it ain't exactly Ohio State/Michigan or Texas/ou. Not that many people outside of our state give much of a shit. It's run its course. Let them establish a new rivalry with Arkansas for fourth place in the SEC West every year.

Please just leave already idiots. Let's call your pouting over the LHN the last time we have to deal with you and go our separate ways. It would be a glorious day, but I seriously doubt we'd be so lucky.

Plz god let those fucking fuck ass fake army bitches leave...

So they are going to discuss something that UT is doing that they don't like but are not going to do anything about it? Isn't this what aggies normally do or am I missing something?

True enough, but there might still be a bit of a state legislature issue at play. And one would have to wonder where this alleged 9 figure donor was when the team had to borrow 8 figures from the university.

This feels like a reporter using a Texags wet-dream/jerkoff session as his source.

They'll go to the SEC when Deloss Dodds decides they will. He already fucked them into the Big 12-2 and landed us $300 million from ESPN in the process. Bitches... the whole lot of 'em.

Goddammit. Just yesterday I set up a meeting with myself on Friday to discuss leaving my wife for Scarlett Johansson. Fucking Aggies, always stealing my thunder.

They can't afford on-campus toilet paper but they are going to whip-up a law school?

Where did the A&M arrogance come from recently? I've really never seen anything like it. No, we don't like each other. That's natural. We've had a lot of good games with them in the last decade across all sports. It seems that A&M has suddenly turned into that emo middle schooler that won't stop pouting, even though they are making a boatload more money now than they were a year ago.

aggy cant do sh1t. texas politics will get in the way of any move bc the state of texas pays aggys light bill.

Ok, lets say A&M bolts, first question is who is the other team the SEC covets? Secondly, even with A&M gone what are the advantages of UT going independent...I would argue none and all A&M will have done is isolated itself politically and recruiting from the rest of Texas. UT already has the TV deal it covets, the revenue it covets, and the clout of the big dog in the conference/nation that it covets. Frankly I have to agree with other posters that say ok A&M go ahead and hurry up so we can drop BYU right in.

All that being said I really don't think A&M is going anywhere because again what is the impetus for the SEC to even offer...and remember when it doesn't happen the standard aggy answer was because they never offered.

I certainly hope this proves to be true. In a conference with UT and their Bevo Network and unequal revenue sharing the playing field will never be level. Let ATM and UT leave and replace them with BYU and Boise State and keep on rollin'!

I do not blame A&M for wanting to turn its back on UT. At this point, I would love to get as far away from UT as possible. Their arrogance is doing nothing but harming college sports. It's own network . . . airing HS games . . . are you kidding me? The Big 12 is worthless. The NCAA is worthless. Above all, UT is worthless and a drag on college football. It's a matter of time before amateurism is out the window and the once "pure" arena of sports is just another pro league in which the game itself is secondary to revenue. Just one more American institution destroyed by greed and excess in the modern day fall of Rome.

I'm so sick of hearing the Aggies are going to bolt for the SEC already. You know who is motivating and advertising this rumor?: Aggies. Not once, repeat NOT ONCE, have I seen the SEC come out and say we will take TAMU. Not during the realignment discussions, not now. Sure TAMU would be their number target for expansions should they choose to expand. Key Words:Would and Should. Why would the SEC expand now and change a system that has worked flawlessly for them? Why now and not when Aggy was begging to go last june? Their was never any offer on the table. Maybe talks, but nothing in writing. The SEC has had no rumors of expansion from their party (kind of an important factor don't you think). I can't imagine the aggies bolting without having an offer on the table. Do they want to move, sure, will they/can they NO. 

In regards to A&M and the SEC... the timing is odd to say the least. The deadline I believe to announce a move was the first of this month. That means the aggys would have to stay in the Big 12 for two years before getting the chance to bolt. Another point to consider is if they will be allowed to make such a move. They're not an independent, private university. They answer to politicians in Austin just like UT. Will they be allowed to break away from UT? Maybe. Maybe not. I think UT and their politicians have plenty at stake in this situation, and I don't think they let them go without a fight.

IF A&M were to leave, the league would replace them with likely BYU. It would not be ideal for the conference, but we'd still be fine so long as UT is around.

dear lord please let this be true.

Love it. I still believe the PAC will do anything to get a tie into the Texas market. That should leave Tech in a good position.

While I realize it likely will have to do with the Big12 Network, PLEASE make the aggies' dream come true and let them go to the SEC.  It would be hilarious to watch aggies arrogantly explain to LSU Tigers how aTm has class and Tigers lack it.  LSU would knock the sh*t out of them b/c LSU doesn't take sh*t from anyone.

They (A&M BOR) are saying all of the politically correct things but EVERYONE is furious in college station and there is too much smoke around this right now......

Wonder if the ags have the balls this time.

All of us in the b12 should be outraged and embarrased!!! How can one school dictate the fate of the other nine? Lets all get together and start our own network.. Refuse to participate in the longhorn network..... No games! Zero! Grow sum damn ballz!!! Texas is better than most. But they arent better than all of us together!!

Aggie would do best to stay put, unify with OU, Tech, OSU and create a core network for FB/BB.  These four schools have an intensive following in their football programs as well as basketball programs that are gaining intensity.  Let's not forget KU's BB power either.

I would add that if the conference is over we were royally screwed...having both Oklahoma and Texas away and not getting benefit of getting both at home. I think this played somewhat...if not a huge part with my enthusiasm for 2012 along with talent returning.

IF aggie were to go SEC, I think that league offers an invite to an east coast school - say VaTech or Miami or FSU. 

Can we get TCU to bolt the Big E? I say BYU, Air Force, Tech, OU, OSU, KU, KSU, Mizzou, ISU, BU....that's ten teams. Do you offer to others? I don't think you can pull the AZs out of the Pac12. Would we extend offers to Tulsa? Houston? Getting TCU would help, but doubt it would happen. Now with BYU, you have a program that has it's own TV network, does that create uncomfort amongst the natives?

This again...... talk about over inflating yourself

If they really have an offer the SEC must really think they can get OU and/or Texas with them.

Well that was a short-lived peace.....

have that flight tracker handy this week

I think there was another thread about this saying that Clemson could be the other team.

blow it up A&M

There is a rumor on Texags that some billionaire A&M booster will give $100 million plus for stadium improvements if the BOR pull the trigger to go to the SEC.

We're fine no matter what because of who we are. OSU, Tech, Baylor, Kansas State, ISU they are worried.

Where does it leave us though, only logical answer is PAC-12, then what do they do move to 14?16? Who do they bring in? 

We can still move to the SEC or the Big 10 even. Least popular option would be stay in the Big 12 and add programs like SMU, Houston etc.

I wish we had a time machine to go back and give Texas an ultimatum during the second weekend of June 2010 - Pac with you or SEC without you. There was no ESPN-UT deal in place. Texas was willing to give up their network plans at that time.

We wont be left out in the cold. We are a very attractive product to other conferences and arent looking to be selfish about what we do. If youre in a conference, you need to work together for the good of the conference. bevo doesnt appear to be doing this.

Texas is not going to back down. 
They will keep pushing the issue and backing A&M in to a corner in regards to caring high school games on its network,,,,, something A&M said they would not stand for.

SEC or independence. Those are the only options. Big Ten will not come after OU. It's not a demographic play for their network, it's not a regional fit (as with Neb), they have their 12 members to stage a championship game and Big Ten members are unlikely to accept a non AAU member. Nebraska lost its status but after the invitation was accepted. Pac has their TV deal. Texas isn't going. The Pac deal was contingent on Texas and a division in the SW region. Doesn't make sense anymore. 

the ESPNut channel was the nail in the coffin for the Bug 12

The longhorn network could be a real albatross for Texas if the league blows up, they can't go to the big 10 or PAC 12 w/ their own network, and they want no part of the SEC...as far as an independent the big difference w/ them and ND is NBC vs some cable network that doesn't have distribution outside of Texas

I know the Pac 16 was all a play for Texas TVs and there is no standing invitation to OU without Texas. I just think they will make a play for both again.

I think the A&M regents are playing this correctly and they may wind up in the SEC. I wouldn't be surprised if the SEC finds aTm very attractive. A&M brings some TV sets from the state of Texas and the SEC would love to recruit more out of Texas.

I thought the Big 12 as it existed in prior years was very good for OU and hated it when the Huskers left since conference prestige has slipped. Personally, I hope we never schedule Nebraska again. Screw them.

Holy crap. Who else would move with them though? We're not going to have 7 and 6 divison

Boo. I mean "Hisssssss".

If this is true, I hope its not OU or OSU. I like being up here all alone. I don't want to have to deal with OU fans in the SEC. There's too many of them around here. 

That squishing sound you hear is furious masturbation in College Station. More furious than usual. 

The SEC would be too powerful for it's own good in football. We need a North Carolina or someone who will help in basketball as well.

If this actually happens, I will shite a brick.

this is complete bull chit 

Maybe they are betting on the Big whatever sucks and getting our asses handed to us by Arkansas again this fall, will make an SEC move more likely. They would be the MSU or Ole Miss of the SEC and Oklahoma would be set back 10 years until they could get with the SEC speed. Not a match for either of those schools. 

I wouldn't mind seeing A&M in the SEC.. however I would hate to see Clemson in. Don't want them in on the share of the giant SEC pie.

Oklahoma would be able to adapt pretty quick. They would be up to speed in about 4 years. They would still win at least 8-9 games a year.

cmon on over aggies!

You are kidding I hope.... OU would be 10-2 11-1 this year in the SEC depending on its schedule. Only possible better teams are LSU and Bama. And they could win either of those games.

Seriously though why must the SEC go so far to the west. UF-College station is far as shit, the thought of going further to Norman is just stupid. Personally my vote would be for a North Carolina (though they will never leave the ACC due to basketball). If it is a team from Florida I would prefer Miami to FSU. Locks up the S Fla market though the thought of them getting a piece of the SEC pie would suck.

so you think that a&m's bor has the power to just "join" the sec? or you think they have an "open invitation"? the first is absolutely and unequivacably (sp) wrong and the second is so wild that i have lots of difficulty believing it. maybe, just maybe the sec invited a&m conditionally and gave them a window to accept. otherwise, i don't see it. i think a bunch of folks are grasping at straws.

here is a synopsis of the meeting. Who wants to remain with the Longhorns and be their second hand bitch for 10 more years? all 12 members say "Aye" motion passed we remain in the Big1 with the little 11 --- carry on. 

I'm against adding teams to the SEC because 14 is a lot more awkward than 12 to manage schedule wise... but if the SEC were to expand for the purpose of making more money? You couldn't do much better than adding OU and A&M

I think OU would lose a lot of its talent if they ever left Texas. They'd still be a solid program, though

too bad texas doesnt have legit athletes.....they would not be fine... 

If you're ever gonna join the SEC, do it now A&M. I'm hoping their addition will make it possible for LSU to not play Florida every year.

If A&M comes, they'd do best if they could block OU from coming. OU is like a third major Texas program. They're probably more popular in north Texas than A&M.

Agreed, the addition of the SEC only makes it a better recruit selling point. I'm not saying they'll out recruit Texas because then again USC still brings in great classes. But Any Football Program that joins the conference would see vast improvements. 

I was guessing more of the state's top talent would choose OU over UT because they would want to play SEC ball.

Sounds like A&M would be wise to move, then. As an independent, Texas would likely still schedule A&M every year, keeping their fight song and all of the rest of their traditions intact.

A&M and Va Tech/UNC
Send Auburn to the east and take away opposite division game. This I can see happening. 

aTm is not going anywhere. ESPN has sunk a ton of money into the Texas network, they will send some suits down to appease the board. They stand to loose to much money if the Big 12 fails.

AM fans and the students want too but they will not be allowed to by the powers that be. 

It makes little sense for the SEC to invite Texas A&M unless they can get Texas or Oklahoma to go along with them in a package deal. 

I say everyone should keep their ass in their own conf. and stay the hell out of the SEC. Its tough enough as it is. Adding more teams will just hurt us